tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2692345008570298281.post617050789561557491..comments2023-11-05T02:39:08.215-07:00Comments on Godless at BYU: Something Good to Talk Onj-doghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12418860641735535641noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2692345008570298281.post-2079438128417944002017-02-21T16:47:20.861-07:002017-02-21T16:47:20.861-07:00Bullion Exchanges is a well known Precious Metals ...<b><a href="http://bullion.syntaxlinks.com/r/BullionExchanges" rel="nofollow">Bullion Exchanges</a></b> is a well known Precious Metals Retailer located in the heart of New York City's Diamond District. <br /><br />Bullion Exchanges have a large selection of products such as, bullion that range from the gold and silver to platinum & palladium.<br /><br />Bullion Exchanges are offering a massive selection of products appealing to 1st time buyers and established investors.Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287821785570247118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2692345008570298281.post-72026330521594145142010-12-09T12:27:54.753-07:002010-12-09T12:27:54.753-07:00AJ - i miss jdawgs, i want to go eat there now, lo...AJ - i miss jdawgs, i want to go eat there now, lol.<br /><br />Demosthenes - keen insight. I've talked about this with some people, and I think i generally agree with you. Mormonism does feminize, culturally, men a lot, and reminds them how less they are compared to women. Course it is interesting that the one thing holding men in may also be the thing that drives a lot of them away, but i tend to agree. Also, i found Mormonism to be a rather secure paradigm to live by until I put it all up to question from the outside. Inside it comes off as surprisingly consistent, so again i agree. <br /><br />I guess for the women who don't put that kind of security first, or who are not as pragmatic as you are, then it makes sense for them to leave, but then most of them are still very concerned about a future husband doing his part. Which is slightly funny - in Mormonism they were afraid that the church would have their husbands being churchy and sexist towards them, but then outside they are still afraid of men not doing their part in raising a family. Are kids that worth it? Sometimes i want kids, sometimes not so much.j-doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12418860641735535641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2692345008570298281.post-53843172906219050302010-12-09T09:37:40.859-07:002010-12-09T09:37:40.859-07:00I freaking love Jaydogs... or however you spell it...I freaking love Jaydogs... or however you spell it. We should go there... soon.AJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17369882564632860091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2692345008570298281.post-45936306173942019372010-12-09T08:56:17.919-07:002010-12-09T08:56:17.919-07:00Agreed that Bill Bradshaw is amazing. You're a...Agreed that Bill Bradshaw is amazing. You're aware that he was the mission president over Vietnam during the war while he was in his late twenties? That man has a fascinating history if you ever get to hear him talk about it. <br /><br />Regarding the overrepresentation of men in the circles you run in, I think a discussion of the cause would be entertaining. Here's my two cents: Men are scary and Mormonism makes them safe. Allow me to explain. From a woman's perspective, a man is bigger stronger, and unpredictable, and (historically at least) we have more social power. That makes us a threat. Some of the more traditional masculine behaviors, such as aggression and sexual predation, are strongly harnessed by Mormon social norms. Alcohol, which tends to bring out these behaviors, is prohibited. Men's ambition is channelled into providing for children and climbing the ecclesiastical ladder. Men's desire for control is directed into turning them into attentive heads of families and congregations. In exchange for giving up any possibility of ecclesiatical power, women get stable family life and security for themselves and their children. For many women this is a trade they are more than happy to make. Men, on the other hand, see their options limited by a rigid set of social controls propped up by a theology that is fairly internally consistent but does not map very well onto external reality. For accepting these restrictions, men are given admiration and respect from their wives and community. Many men are also happy to accept the trade. For all the talk of women being limited by a patriarchal religion, I think that the argument is stronger that the patriarchy exists to control men, and that women sustain it. <br /><br />If women were allowed into the hierarchy the bargain would no longer hold for men. They would lose their privileged position and would no longer have any motivation to accept the restrictions that grant them their privileges. Women would then lose the control over the worst aspects of male nature. For many men, they feel that they can get admiration and respect outside of Mormonism, but for women the promise of docile family men is harder to come by in the outside world. Particularly when they have been raised with an us vs them mentality regarding "the World". Thus, women by and large choose to stay and don't really understand the complaint of women who leave.Demosthenesnoreply@blogger.com